Senate Minutes 2.2.17

Minutes of the SCU Senate Meeting February 2, 2017

Members Present:

Senate Chair Neil Datar Austin Gray Amy Monzon

Parliamentarian Phillip Barber Jack Herstam Jelly Fuentes

Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins* Karsten Andersen David Warne

Payton Swanson Samantha Perez Gemi Griffin

Alex Perlman Kayla Williams Jaia Rovaris

Helen Kassa Ahmer Israr Areany Tolentino

Tom Valentine Maureen O’Neill Cormac McOsker Trevor MacDonald Jahwala Johns Margo Gentile Mackenzie Bartz Victoria Linares Jake Day

Ye Chit Ko Erik Echeona***Proxy Jack Booth

*Recorded minutes


Mayron Mulugeta


Senate Chair Neil Datar called the February 2, 2017 meeting of the Santa Clara University Senate to order at 7:03pm in the Williman Room.

Senate Chair Neil asked a member to read the invocation. At-Large Senator Kayla Williams recited the invocation.


Pro Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll at 7:04pm.


Senate Chair Neil Datar asked the Senate to consider the agenda for the current meeting. He requested questions and comments related to the minutes. None were put forward, and the agenda was approved by At-Large Senator Sam Perez and seconded by First-Year Senator David Warne.


Senate Chair Neil Datar asked the Senate to consider the minutes from the last Senate meeting. She requested questions and comments related to the minutes. None were put forward, and the minutes were approved by Senior Senator Tom Valentine and seconded by At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko.


Short presentation from SCU EMS

Imagine you or a friend make a poorly planned decision and you need to call EMS. Now during those 3-5 minutes that it takes for EMS to come, you don’t know what to do. This program is to educate students to be more aware of problems that happen and what you should do. This is more than alcohol, it’s mental health and wellness how to be prepared for any situation.


Junior Senator Jack Herstam: What’s your relationship with the pre health educators?

I’m a marketer for them, I’m glad to be able to spearhead this kind of program. I feel like as a community it’s important to educate people on wellness and I’m surprised that a program like this hasn’t happened yet.

Senate Chair Neil Datar: How can we support you?

Attendance and telling people about it. Of course this is targeted more at underclassmen who have less experience but it can really help anyone. We will go through several scenarios. It’s super important information that everyone should know and it’s really fun too.


Community Development---

Senior Night

Any senators available to help with pre-registration?

(David, Mac, Helen, Payton, Victoria)

Last Lecture

Stephen Carroll

Date TBD

Off Campus Chair

Collaboration with Senate?


Office Hours 10:30-12:00 Tues/Thurs

Canceled next Thursday!

49% of Budget Spent!

Let me know when you’re spending money! I can help!


Bylaws cheat sheet will be out next week

Keep up with attendance (we’re watching)

Reach out to me with any judicial inquiries

Vice President---

Winter Retreat

February 4 - 8:30am to 1:00pm. Montague Park

Drivers? Alex, Tom, Jaia, Marc, Karsten, Marli, maybe Victoria’s car?


State of the University

Wednesday, February 15, 2017, at 4:00 p.m. in Mayer Theatre

Working with ODI & OSL on incident responses

ASG Buddies -

Reach out to them!

Keep them in the loop!

Build relationships!


  1. RSO presentations

Distance Club:

Mission Statement: To have fun and foster a healthy/social atmosphere for all members while enjoying the outdoors and friends.

Hope to participate in marathons and visit various running locations to explore nature space. There is not a club on campus dedicated to consistently going on runs, members will be able to stay fit and have fun.


Vice President Fred Fayzi: Are you guys both cross country runners?

Yes, we used to be.

Senior Senator Tom Valentine: What’s the leadership structure you expect to have

We are co-presidents and we have a vice president and we will give people leadership roles to lead runs and be in charge of different skill levels.

First Year senator Helen Kassa: Will this be self funded or will you ask ASG for funding?

We can be self funded, but we would gladly accept any support from ASG

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: How will transportation work?

We both have cars and several other prospective members do as well

First-Year Senator Payton Swanson: Do you have a lot of interest in this club?

Yes we have at least 15 and we are hoping to table.

Slam Poets:

Offering a space for marginalized voices to be heard and valued, SPSCU will foster culture, creativity, and diversity through its community of passionate slam poets and writers on both a local and national level through university events and the cultivation of a CUPSI team.

We want to grow as writers and performer and want to foster an environment where people feel comfortable with public performance. We would participate in the Bronco Slam and Jam and that would be our main event and other Slam Poetry events.


At-Large Senator Austin Gray: How is slam poetry different from regular poetry?

It’s kind of like poetry and performing arts had a baby and this is the result, these pieces are meant for performance.

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: I think you guys are filling a great need and I’m excited to see your performance.

First-Year Senator David Warne: Would you go to CUPSI this year? When is it?

It’s in april, we were planning to go but one of our teammates had to back out and now our team isn’t large enough, but we will next year.

Society of Physics Students:

The objectives of the Society of Physics Students shall be to: a) encourage and assist students interested in physics to develop knowledge, competence, enthusiasm, and social responsibility that are essential to the advancement of physics; b) stimulate interest in advanced study and research in physics; c) develop collegiality among physics students and faculty members; d) promote public interest in physics; and e) provide liaison between students and member societies of the American Institute of Physics.


Senior Senator Tom Valentine: How are you guys getting the word out there right now?

We’re trying to spread the word in some introductory physics class, mostly word of mouth or club fairs

Junior Senator Jelly Fuentes: So you mentioned complementing the women in physics club, have you already talked to them?

Yes I am pretty close to the president and they support it.

At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko: Is this open to any major?


Turning Point USA:

The mission of Turning Point USA is to promote ideas of limited government, free markets, and capitalism to students across America. We strive to educate young adults on the importance of fiscal responsibility through non-partisan debate, dialogue, and discussion.

We hope to have 2 to 3 events each quarter which could be speakers or educational events such as informing students on their student. We are focused on activism, we are nonpartisan, and focused on educating students. This is one of the fastest club growing nationwide that provides practical information to students nationwide. We want people to think more critically about the information they are receiving, we hope to help students improve their debating skills-giving students the chance to learn what an argument is and how to craft one, provide students with pride in their national culture and we will serve to create a dialogue about laws and policies that affect them. This is not a club about social issues this is purely about economics and understanding the government policy.


At-Large Senator Sam Perez: How are you different from the college libertarians and college republicans?

We will appeal to blue dog democrats who have free market views. This is not a party affiliated club, we are not going to talk about or endorse people we will only talk about policy and free market.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: Would you say that you’re different from college republicans is solely your views on free trade?

We stand for voluntary exchange and we’re going to talk about how that can apply to people’s lives.

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: You’ve spoken about activism and I want to know what your line is for activism, I know other chapters have actively tried to get professors fired

We’re not trying to be provocative and we don’t want to start fights. We want to bring people together

At-Large Senator Kayla Williams: Why did you choose to affiliate with Turning Point USA instead of having your own RSO?

TPA has an extensive donor network and it’s more viable and efficient to affiliate.

At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko: Are you going to participate in the Professor Watchlist?

The people who get on this list are extremist and an example is a professor at Oregon who said the communist regime was the greatest thing that’s happened. The list is more like a rate my professor type thing, we think people should be informed about people like this who have wacky ideas. We would never advocate for someone to get fired.

At-Large Senator Austin Gray: You said that this club is mostly economic but you mentioned talking about culture and I don’t understand how that comes into this.

When we say culture we’re talking about the Founding Fathers and their economic focus and what this country was built on. Just to look at these principles. When we refer to culture we refer to economic culture.

First-Year Senator Helen Kassa: Piggybacking on Austin’s question you originally said American pride and that sounds more like a social belief than an economic one.

The pride is in America, American free markets and capitalism.

Helen Kassa: I am unnerved that you this organization is associated with someone like Milo Yiannopoulos, I’m concerned that maybe years from now this club will touch on social issues and what the stance will be.

Milo is more of a provocateur who talks mostly about social issues and not economic ones and he is not someone who we would want to have on campus. TPA requires that as a chapter you are not supposed to talk about social issues.

Senior Senator Tom Valentine: Would members pay dues?


First-Year Senator Erik Echeona **Proxy Jack Booth: How do you believe that your free market principles fall into schools ideals of charity?

Capitalism helps people get out of poverty and improves their life quality. We think promoting these people would encourage charity.

DISCUSSION (last week’s RSO)

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on He for She. The motion was made by Sophomore Senator Jawhala Johns and seconded by First-Year Senator Payton Swanson. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was approved.

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on Volunteers Around the World. The motion was made by Senior Senator Tom Valentine and seconded by at-Large Senator Austin Gray. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was approved.

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on Distance Club. The motion was made by Sophomore Senator Jawhala Johns and seconded by Sophomore Senator Victoria Linares. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was approved.

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on Slam Poets. The motion was made by First-Year Senator Payton Swanson and seconded by At-Large Senator Maureen O’Neil. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was approved.

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on Society of Physics Students. The motion was made by Sophomore Senator Victoria Linares and seconded by Junior Senator Mac McOsker. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was approved.

Turning Point USA


Senior Senator Jaia Rovaris: I would feel more comfortable voting/passing if their ideas were more in line with the entire organization it seems like their ideas are more independent and would be better as a standalone club.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: It’s their right to affiliate with whoever they choose.

Senior Senator Jaia Rovaris: I just feel like if you’re going to fall under another organization you should agree with all their beliefs.

Senior Senator Tom Valentine : We need to encourage free speech on a college campus.

At-Large Senator Sam Perez: I don’t think we can ignore the context that we’re in, and they say they’re not controversial but if they’re not controversial why are all these people at senate

Sophomore Senator Jake Day: I think during times of divisiveness we can’t ignore the fact that this club is trying to encourage discussion.

At-Large Senator Sam Perez: I would encourage discussion with the 3 political clubs we do have on campus.

Public Discussion:

Issac director of MCC: This organization nationally and on this campus is against our ideals as a jesuit philosophy and against our humanity and senators need to think about that before voting.

Alex: The pushback against this club is politically motivated and not about rights, this college leans to the left and people are apprehensive about promoting something conservative.

Yesenia: I’m confused about how this club is about free speech when they have a list of professors they don’t agree with and support. American culturism is not an economic concept.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: 5 Jesuit schools already have chapters, the disagreement is politically based.

Kasamera: Nobody is arguing about free speech on campus we have a republican club on campus. I have an issue with the fact that this organization has social beliefs and if you don’t support that why not be a stand alone club.

Diego: I think American culturalism is more than just white people and means pulling yourself up from the bottom

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: How are their values against our school values?

Sandra: How do we know these clubs are actually at those Jesuit schools?

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: It is look it up.

John: Centered around Professor Watchlist, most of the examples on that website are professors who explicitly speak about social justice issues such as rape culture and they end up on the list.

Samantha: TPUSA is a national organization, we have the largest young women’s conference in the nation.

At-Large Senator Austin Gray: If this club wasn’t socially motivated we wouldn’t have this many people here.

Andrianne: You guys said you wanted to bring speakers and I wanted to know what type of speakers you wanted to bring on campus, some chapters have tried to bring Milo Yiannopoulos to campus and the president sent out an email to the entire campus with his political views and I want to know if that will continue

Thayne: the email was me personally and had nothing to do with Turning Point; a speaker could be Peter Shift, Ben Shapiro.

First-Year Senator David Warne: The opposition to this club is solely based in disagreement and that’s not enough.

Sean: I’d like to contest the characterization of Milo as just a provacatuer where photos of a transgender student were publically mocked at one of his presentations.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: This chapter is not those chapters.

Omar: I’m all for the academic liberty of the university but why did you try to connect Chile and China, global topics to American conceptualism.

Cameron: Chile is a market, capitalist economy and has the 3rd highest standard of living and as a result of the economics their economy is strong and charitable.

Eric: I hope we make this decision in Senate thinking about us as a school and not just because it is present at other schools

Leo: The website says that there is a chapter at Santa Clara which is obviously not true and how can we trust them and their reporting on other chapters.

Samantha: TPUSA recognizes any students that want to be a chapter

At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko: Just because there are students on campus that show values supporting them, they cannot be a chapter without support from the University and Senate.

John: Why do you want to be a part of the national organization?

Thayne: The national organization has a considerable number of resources and we decided to go with them for this support.

At-Large Senator Sam Perez: Why are you different from the other clubs?

Caleb: We don’t have party name labels.

At-Large Senator Kayla Williams: The website says to never trust stupid people in large groups and I want to know how you can say you’re inclusive with that kind of language.

Thayne: It just means large groups have large sway.

Evan: there are multiple instances citing harassment and violence and chapters continue inviting him, you are that organization how do we know you won’t do the same?

Spencer: We will not invite Milo to campus.

Junior Senator Mac McOsker: The club is terrible nationwide why not make it free trade club.

Yesenia: Why do you need to become an RSO when it seems pretty clear you’re already a chapter.

Thayne: We need to have a legitimate RSO to use the school’s resources

Senior Senator Jaia Rovaris: What are your standards for affiliation?

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: We don’t need to censure this club.

First-Year Senator Payton Swanson: Our job is to represent our constituents and many of them are concerned about this club and we need to think about that.

Sophomore Senator Margo Gentile: We need to think about how this club will make the SCU community feel. There is redundancy with the campus republicans, activism and economics

Alonzo: The Creighton University Senate didn't accept this because of the same reasons said tonight, I hope Santa Clara does the same.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: I’m muslim and everyone should be able to have free speech individually. If I’m not offended why are you

Jasmyne: I am muslim myself you do not speak for us, I am offended by this organization.

John: The Solomon Code says to accept this club for diversity of opinion.

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: What are the benefits of creating this club when there is so much opposition

Thayne: The opposition is reason to be created, we need to have dialogue, come learn

Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins: Will you use the Professor Watchlist?

Thayne: Yes we will be participating in it but we will not be using it as a way to get professors fired more as an informative source, like Rate my Professor.

Karen: I encourage everyone on senate to look at their website before you vote, they devalue sexual assault and feminism.

Elayna: I think the economics and the social aspects cannot be separated.


Junior Senator Jack Herstam: I’ve never felt the weight of my presence as much as I do now. Being fair in judgements is something we promise to do. Looking at any RSO that passes will be held to standards

Junior Senator Amy Monzon: We have to consider when we approve a club we are not approving them for a quarter we are approving them for an undeterminable length of time. You have to think about who will be affected.

Senior Senator Tom Valentine : I think we should give them a chance.

Junior Senator Mac McOsker: I don’t think giving support to this club not a good idea.

First-Year Senator David Warne: I think that this is a very politically biased vote and we need to realize.

At-Large Senator Sam Perez: A lot of people don’t feel safe with this organization and I can’t vote for something like that

At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko: They are running under their name, but these are students on our campus.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: Fundamentally their viewpoints don’t matter, it is their ability to speak out as an organization, we should allow all views to be represented. Conservative students are also a minority group on campus and don’t feel comfortable speaking in class

First-Year Senator Erik Echona **Proxy Jack Booth: Are we marginalizing them based on ideologies?

At-Large Senator Austin Gray: At a certain point we have to figure out where our personal lines are. It’s more than just a good presentation and that is something to consider.

Sophomore Senator Alex Perlman: The way I’m trying to look at this, the benefits being part of this organization are outweighed by the amount of people who feel uncomfortable with people being part of this charter organization

Junior Senator Mac McOsker: I don’t see this as a partisan thing, I just think this is a bad national group I’m all for free trade but this is more than that. I don’t agree with the national organization and I don’t think this fair to say this is just about economics.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: We are infringing on their free speech by not accepting them.

At-Large Senator Sam Perez: I don’t think by not approving this club we are infringing on their free speech

At-Large Senator Maureen O’Neil: This club has said they want to use their charter so they have resources and they don’t want to start from the ground up but a lot of other clubs already do that. It’s not infringing on free speech when we are saying no to this organization .

First-Year Senator David Warne: Disagreeing with this club is infringing on their beliefs.

First-Year Senator Helen Kassa: All the students concerns are valid and it’s not our place to validate people’s concerns. A single person does not represent a group.

At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko: Free speech has been brought up a lot and we need to draw the line between free speech and hate speech.

Senate Chair Neil Datar: You are voting for an approval to RSO and you have to take all information into consideration

Sophomore Senator Margo Gentile: We need to consider this whole organization.

Junior Senator Jack Herstam: I don’t feel comfortable voting on this because it’s between affirming the people in this room and doing what is logical. We have to weigh what they’re saying and the organization

First-Year Senator Payton Swanson: The fact of the matter is their viewpoints are tied to them

At-Large Senator Austin Gray: I guess building off of what Jack said it seems treacherous to have a club when we have presented the possibility of them chartering as something not Turning Point USA.

Senior Senator Jaia Rovaris: Postponing the vote doesn’t change anything

Sophomore Senator Jawhala Johns: I think postponing the vote would take some of the tensions away. It seems daunting voting on everything today. There is a lot of emotion here now.

Sophomore Senator Margo Gentile: All these people came this week, we had a week to prepare there is no point in postponing the vote.

First-Year Senator Helen Kassa: The majority wants to vote today.

At-Large Senator Ahmer Israr: The facts aren’t going to change from week to week, it’s not fair to table.

Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to vote on Turning Point USA. The motion was made by Senior Senator Tom Valentine and seconded by First-Year Senator David Warne. Pro-Tempore Rachel Wiggins took roll, and the RSO was not approved.

Senate Chair Neil Datar: Thank you to everyone who came out today. I ask that no matter how you stood on this issue that we ask that you continue respecting and doing what you’re doing. Go Broncos!

2. Voting on Proposed RSOs (from last week and this week)

He for She---PASSED

Volunteers Around the World---PASSED

Distance Club---PASSED

Slam Poetry---PASSED

Society of Physics---PASSED

Turning Point USA---DID NOT PASS



Trevor- Pizza with the Police week 7

Gemi- NURC

Jake- BIC BeHeard next week

Erik- coordinating with Deputy DA for Senate Speaker

Helen- researching through Sustainability about VTA student eco-pass; looking into implementing an ASG scholarship (Tom, Kayla, Jelly, Victoria, David, Rachel)

Kayla- Sustainability for week 8 and possibly Belinda Guthrie week 5

Amy- design BeHeard boxes


David- Working on fixing weekend Benson, meeting with Jeane.

Mayron - Working with USAA and sent out new needs list for sanctuary campus. Planning global village. If you want to help, hit her up.

Jaia- Pizza w police Feb 24!

Mac -Presentation on school spirit, talk to him w more ideas!

Sam- Meeting Feb. 3 w/ Provost Dennis to add WGST to the core. Met w Matthew Duncan about getting rid of Can’t Thread. Matthew is creating taskforce dedicated to replacing Can’t Thread.

Maureen -Continuing work on Iggy Q Conference, will be April 22-23.

3. FOC

Library Hours

Benson room

Move in Resolution


Double BUIS Major

Art Minors

4. SAC

Four potential RSOs presented tonight. Great job everyone!

+$1000 Presentations will start up week six so get excited!

Can’t wait to see everyone at retreat Saturday


Be Heard Desk

Office Hours, fill them out!


Senate Chair Neil Datar asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. Adjournment was approved by At-Large Senator Ye Chit Ko and seconded by Junior Senator Jelly Fuentes. Senate Chair Neil Datar called the February 2, 2017 meeting of the Santa Clara University Senate to a close at 9:48PM.

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